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This is a discussion on Miller Performance within the BMW Discussions forums, part of the BMW Discussion Forums category; Miller Performance is a E30/E36 shop I visited in British Columbia Canada. I just wanted to take a moment to ...

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Old 09-24-2007, 02:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Miller Performance

Miller Performance is a E30/E36 shop I visited in British Columbia Canada.

I just wanted to take a moment to share my experiences with the good people at Miller Performance.

These guys are hands down the best people to go to for your BMW; don't bother looking anywhere else; I did, and I wish I took the time to drive down there a year ago. (it is a two hour drive for me but it was well worth it!)

They were exceptionally helpful and insightful to my issues and requests for my E30.

These guys are smart! I don't mean that they just know a hell of a lot about BMW's (which they do!), but they are also creative and intelligent in respect to auto electronics/programming, and performance.

They were able to program a perfect algorithm for my unique setup and now my E30 runs smoother and faster than ever before. I was doubtful about the need for tuning before; but now it feels like a completely different BMW. I literally fell in love with my E30 all over again thanks to these artists.

To top off this excellent experience; they were able to source me a part for my vehicle from their personal stock to replace a broken part that I was unable to get from the wreckers.

I have never encountered such mechanical and technical experts like this that were willing not only to take the time and effort to make everything perfect, but also willing to go out of their way to explain it to me and answer all my questions.

I generally do not recommend places as I want to be damn sure about a place before I put my name on the line, but Miller performance was so exceptional that I fully recommend them and you can even email me if you want at cole975 at gmail dot com.

Thank you very much gentlemen!

-Ryan Cole
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Old 09-24-2007, 03:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Unfortunatly i've heard they can't do much with m42's though
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where did you hear that?
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just their m42 MAF mod has been canceled due to problems they had on test cars (not sure if they found another way to mod it yet). they are still quite knowledgeable regardless.
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Check this link out for Miller performance reference...
http://www.bimmerclassics.net/forum/...ead.php?t=2480
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that was just that piece. i've hear good things about other services that they have done. their car at the XXX drive in last year was pretty decent. bad paint job, but they sent it out for that.
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I will NEVER go back there for anything. And for what it's worth Mark D from EAT has also seen first hand they don't know what they're doing. If you want excellent chip tuning I suggest Mark, he truely knows what he's doing, and has more experience in his little finger than Millers entire teenage crew.

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Originally Posted by Mike 91 318ic
I will NEVER go back there for anything. And for what it's worth Mark D from EAT has also seen first hand they don't know what they're doing. If you want excellent chip tuning I suggest Mark, he truely knows what he's doing, and has more experience in his little finger than Millers entire teenage crew.

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the only problem is that mark D doesn't live around here... it sucks that we don't have any really good tuners around. I'm going to forcefed performance on friday for a dyno tune with the haltech. I'll let you guys know how it goes. They seem like good guys tho, and look to know what they're doing from the few times i've been.
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Mike 91, I have no clue what you are talking about; I know Mark D and I ran his chip; he even came down to Vancouver recently and he admits himself that he cannot do the MAF for anywhere near what miller can do;

And as for not knowing their stuff....

I think you are mistaken; these guys may be young but they are brilliant; (and I have been around long enough to know,.. damn I am getting old).

Nonetheless, I am not knocking Mark; he does know what he is doing, but he takes an enthusiast’s way of going about it (A trial and error method and process of elimination system); where as Miller does it scientifically on a higher level of abstraction.

I have tried a lot of different products from Dinan to D’Sylva and I am much much happier with Miller. These people went way out of there way to produce the best possible outcome for me. I am talking far above and beyond the call of duty here.

So for what it is worth; they are the only people I will let touch my E30 anymore.

I am just sorry that you had a negative experience. What exactly happened? You are the only person I know who is unhappy.
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First off lets agree to disagree... Mark has seen their MAF's on an M5 and he said it ran poorly, when I used their product I had terrible results. As for trial and error yes that's how miller does it also, but at the customers expense. At the time it was my expense and time and customer service was nil. As for brilliant, well that's a very bold statement that is suppose is debatable but I don't care to get into it. I'm happy you had a good experience, lets hope they do great things for the E30 since these cars don't exactly have a large following where aftermarket products are everywhere. I respect the fact that they appreciate the E30 for what it is, but under no circumstances will I ever, ever let them within 10 feet of my car again

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Mike 91, I have no clue what you are talking about; I know Mark D and I ran his chip; he even came down to Vancouver recently and he admits himself that he cannot do the MAF for anywhere near what miller can do;

And as for not knowing their stuff....

I think you are mistaken; these guys may be young but they are brilliant; (and I have been around long enough to know,.. damn I am getting old).

Nonetheless, I am not knocking Mark; he does know what he is doing, but he takes an enthusiast’s way of going about it (A trial and error method and process of elimination system); where as Miller does it scientifically on a higher level of abstraction.

I have tried a lot of different products from Dinan to D’Sylva and I am much much happier with Miller. These people went way out of there way to produce the best possible outcome for me. I am talking far above and beyond the call of duty here.

So for what it is worth; they are the only people I will let touch my E30 anymore.

I am just sorry that you had a negative experience. What exactly happened? You are the only person I know who is unhappy.
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I just got the Miller Maf Kit installed on my e30 325ic and i have to say that i am very pleased with their product. I dealt with Brodie and he was very knowledgeable. He installed the Maf and he took his time and did everything professionally. I stood right beside him when he was installing the kit and he was very friendly and told me all about their R & D they have put into this product. He admitted that the product was not compatible with the M42 ENGINES but they sell lots these kits to the US market. I asked them how come they don't advertise and they told me that it cost lots of money to do fancy advertising which they don't have. Before i got this Maf kit i did my research extensively and lots of bmw esthusiats are happy with their product. My car's throttle response is lot better and i feel the cars has lots more power. I had a Bavauto chip and i can say that this product is better than any chip out there. I am so happy with their product that i am taking my e24 next week to get one put in it.
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My only experience with them was that I contacted them about doing work on my car and they said they were interested in doing testing and development on my 10:1 M30.
Follow calls by me were ignored and I gave up after 6 weeks. I've made the assumption that this is indicitive of their level of customer service and have decided not to explore their services any further.
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I appreciate the way you speak Mike; even though you disagreed, you said it with respect and did not attack anyone personally. Makes me wish I had the same decency when I sent my first response. My apologies for that.

Apparently different people are having mixed results. It seems that during thier initial R&D phase people had issues, but I think they have matured since.

Carter, I am curious if you made calls during the weeks that they were touring all over the US. I had troubles calling them to but they responded to email quite well. I am sorry that you have had a unfortunate incident, and I hope that they can make it up to you one day.

I guess it all boils down to the fact that I have never seen a company in the Early BMW world that I really want to succeed and I guess I am just pulling for the underdog.
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