DISPUTE UR Tickets!!!!

[1989E34M5]

Hi All
Long story short, disputed a traffic violation I received in Sept. got worried because I hadn't heard back about my dispute so I called ICBC. The court system is so backed up, I may not get a court date for months and after it is set it may be another year before it goes to court!!! What a laff, if everyone disputes thier tickets the court process would be backed up for years!!! RCMP officers get moved, you go to court, they don't show, you win!!!

[Mr. Red]

and on that bombshell...it's time to start speeding boys@! (I'm just about to watch the new episode of top gear)

[motoyen]

I agree. Dispute EVERYTHING! If cops are going to be assholes then I'm going to exercise my rights for as long as possible. If you can drag it out long enough eventually they will just drop it. I wouldn't even bother phoning ICBC, better to lay low. I once got a ticket up near Whistler and it was over 2 years later that they finally sent me a letter saying they were dropping the charges because it took too long.

[Weeman83]

And you wonder why the court system is so backed up in the first place.

[JimB]

Actually, even if the RCMP officer moves out of that district, he will be brought back (often flown in at great expense) to defend the charge. You and I just pay more policing bills for mornons like you. (sorry did I say that out loud)
Bottom line is, if you obey the traffic laws you don't even have to meet the ******* policman

Cheers,
Jim

[Weeman83]

I echo that. Dispute it if you have just cause, swallow it if you don't.

Funny how some of us take the meaing 'right to trial' so far and forget that the 'right to trial' is really more like a priviledge in a global context. Privileges are best left unabused.

[adrian_325]

i agree and I do obey the law but if i do get a ticket, i'm gonna fight it too. they made the damn tickets way too expensive, not to! add in the hit to your insurance and its a no brainer for me.

i'll fight it.

[JimB]

Originally Posted by adrian_325 i agree and I do obey the law but if i do get a ticket, i'm gonna fight it too. they made the damn tickets way too expensive, not to! add in the hit to your insurance and its a no brainer for me. i'll fight it.

I don't understand your comment. If you are obeying the law, you won't get a ticket.

JIm

[adrian_325]

yes, i do obey the law and don't have any tickets to my name yet. figure if that needle ever creeps a little higher than it should, if i don't catch it, there will be a cop around who will. just saying if i were to get a ticket, id fight it.

[JimB]

Originally Posted by adrian_325 yes, i do obey the law and don't have any tickets to my name yet. figure if that needle ever creeps a little higher than it should, if i don't catch it, there will be a cop around who will. just saying if i were to get a ticket, id fight it.

But under the circumstances you describe....you would be guilty. And, as with anybody who breaks the laws there are consequences. Every society must have laws...and law enforcers. So, your arguement makes no sense whatsoever.

Can you come up with a situation where you could actually be wrongly convicted, and consequently should fight back?

Hmmm...maybe you had been drinking heavy two days earlier, and burped just before a breathalyzer test.
No, that's been tried.
Perhaps, having an identical twin. Yah...that's it!

Twins can get away with anything.

Are you a twin?

No? Oh well, gotta behave then....

Cheers,
Jim

[1989E34M5]

Tickets are way out of line as far as punishment goes, you can get away with assault, or hit and run a pedestrian, leave the scene and pay less in the long run than speeding more than 30k over the limit. Thats Justice??? Thats BS as far as I am concerned, they are just gouging the basically honest tax payer. Better yet rent a house, run a grow op, they don't even charge you, or pursue you for charges in the city of Vancouver, they just close you down. But heaven forbid your doing more than 20 k over the speed limit during rush hour in a group of vehicles and they pick you out of the crowd, you get hit with a nice fine and points on your license, and if you go over 5 points they hit you again when your insurance renews. Better off shooting the cop dead and try to get away with it, temporary insanity I say!!! And let the first person on this board who has never ever in their entire life sped against a road sign knowingly or not, give me the holier than thou about speeding or any other road infractions, at least I pay attention when I am driving unlike the idiots driving with their cell phones shoved up their ass text messaging or gabbing away completely oblivious in the left hand lane. OK Finished ranting now all better, deep breath,ahhahahahah

[CraigBurton]

I just got hammered with a $197 fine. Not going to fight it (I was doing 22 over), but I am going to ask for a fine reduction. If the cop doesn't show it's gravy. I may get a Valentine V1 for Christmas though

[Cacciatore08]

Originally Posted by JimB Actually, even if the RCMP officer moves out of that district, he will be brought back (often flown in at great expense) to defend the charge. You and I just pay more policing bills for mornons like you. (sorry did I say that out loud) Bottom line is, if you obey the traffic laws you don't even have to meet the ******* policman Cheers, Jim

+1, I'm with Jim on this one...

If you choose to speed you have to pay the consequences. If you're doing 80 in a 50, you deserve a ticket. It's pretty simple...

What a usless thread... complete waste of tax payers money, especially when the entire world is in economic turmoil...

[1989E34M5]

Fine by me fly him back at our expense, well worth the $$$, its ok for them to tazer or shoot some1 to death, how many drinking and driving infractions against them in the last 3 months? not to mention they killed a friend of my coworkers sons in one of those incidents. The RCMP and all the other forces are a bunch of real upstanding citizens themselves, but I don't see them going after their own "members" that hard, they just try to cover it up. Oh they get treated real rough, suspended with pay, oh thats harsh. I know a few cops and most of them get off a speeding ticket with a flash of the badge especially in their own district or with their own force, now thats what I call real justice. I stick by my decision, back up the court system its our "rite", just like its their rite to give out big whopping tickets. I haven't had an accident or a ticket for over 15 years till this one. Have I ever gotten a "warning" no! and from what I hear from my Policemen friends if your still a traffic constable in the lower mainland and your well up in years with the RCMP, you are basically a looser that hasn't been promoted

[Cacciatore08]

Originally Posted by 1989E34M5 Fine by me fly him back at our expense, well worth the $$$, its ok for them to tazer or shoot some1 to death, how many drinking and driving infractions against them in the last 3 months? not to mention they killed a friend of my coworkers sons in one of those incidents. The RCMP and all the other forces are a bunch of real upstanding citizens themselves, but I don't see them going after their own "members" that hard, they just try to cover it up. Oh they get treated real rough, suspended with pay, oh thats harsh. I know a few cops and most of them get off a speeding ticket with a flash of the badge especially in their own district or with their own force, now thats what I call real justice. I stick by my decision, back up the court system its our "rite", just like its their rite to give out big whopping tickets. I haven't had an accident or a ticket for over 15 years till this one. Have I ever gotten a "warning" no! and from what I hear from my Policemen friends if your still a traffic constable in the lower mainland and your well up in years with the RCMP, you are basically a looser that hasn't been promoted

Not sure what you're getting at,
If you're against the effectiveness of the RCMP in Canada, I'm with you on that one. The drinking, the taser incedent, and other examples of acessive force by law enforcement officers is rediculous. I can't agree more with you in the fact that cops are on power trips. They hand out obserb traffic tickets, when they should really be focused on drivers who aren't paying attetion because they cause a large majority of accidents (Cell Phones while driving ? wtf?!)

But backing up the court system doesn't affect them, they get paid no matter what. I'm not sure what you hope to achieve out of all of this? The fact is eventually you will have to pay that ticket. Whether you pay it now and get $25 off or in 1 year, it makes no difference to the government.

You broke the law, be mature and pay the ticket and stop wasting tax payers money.