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| Senior Member Name: Ryan Joined: Sep 2006 From: Maple Ridge Posts: 1,022
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crunk3's pictures | Jeremy Clarkson Reviews the 135i http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/tol...cle3103294.ece
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| Member | My friend at BMW HQ is going to set me up with a test drive when it finally gets here. Here is what one of her co-workers wrote up after driving one: "The 1 Series takes a step back to the E36 3 series size and feel, (3 generations ago). It has a extremely powerful and responsive engine, if anything it's too much for the rear wheels and wheel base to handle, it slips and slides under heavy acceleration, the DSC and DTC keep it straight and true allowing just enough to kick out the rear to make you feel a hero but call time with electronics b4 you put it in a ditch. The closest feel I can related it to is a E46 M3 CSL. The chassis is very responsive and it can hold incredible corner speed. The suspension is compliant, but the car I rode had a sports package and the rear end had slightly to much compression damping, that made it skip over road imperfections. The front was compliant and struck a good balance between feedback and a smooth ride. The steering was direct and the car managed fast direction changes without the typical trade off of wandering on the hwy. There's almost zero body roll. The size of the car is the most immediately striking aspect, it is compact, but both driver and passenger have plenty of room. The areas it loses out noticeably to a 3 series (Now the size of a 5 series 3 generations ago), is the rear passenger seats which seem very tight and the arm rest section between the two front seats. The cockpit is taken straight out of a current 3 and is easy to read and very user friendly. The truck space is good for a compact the claim that 2 bags of golf clubs fit, but I'd question that! Overall the 135i is a rocket, a mini M3. If I was not a performance fan and wanted a safe, quality fast compact vehicle the 128i would exceed all my expectations, as long I didn't have 2 teenage boys who were into hockey, b/c of the tight rear seats and limited trunk space. The upgrade to 135i is only if you've always aspired to owning a super car like performance, no question it feels and is faster than a 335i b/c it shares the engine but considerably less weight. If you select to take off the driving aids, the 135i is a beast that will have you sideways in a heartbeat. Overkill maybe? It depends what stirs your soul. " Hopefully I'll like the styling and the price. It would be nice for BMW to bring us back to quick and nimble cars. I miss my E36 M3...
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| Senior Member | I'm not quite sold on the new 1-series. The styling is too wierd, its looks too much like a squised 3-series which makes it look too tall. The pricing is too close to a 3-series. For the price of a loaded 135i, you can get last year's 335i, which I'd much rather have. That quote from BMW hq sounds like a sales brochure.
My prediction: they'll sell just fine, but the used car prices will show the true value of the car. In a year or two, their prices will be down considerably, much like the M coupes. BMW is getting greedy and their prices reflect that. | ||||
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| Senior Member Name: Gregory Joined: Dec 2007 From: Vancouver Posts: 1,016
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M635's pictures | Though even though I'm a BMW fan. I'd so go for the VW Golf V R32. The 1 series seems okay, but I hate the hatchback. The coupe is really nice, and can't wait until they release the 2002Tii 1 series. it's going to be a 2.0L Turbocharged motor. But I think the front end is alright, still a bit better than the new 3 series, the rear on the other hand is very well put together. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9rFQPg0kbk Top Gear: BMW 130i vs. VW Golf V R32 |
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Masterdoofus's pictures | i heard the 1 series Tii was a pet project by some tuner guys, and that its not really a gonna be a production car... and if bmws got the AWSOME twin turbo 3L why would they put a 2L single turbo in it? but its just sad that the M division isnt gonna make one. forgeting that the name has been used before, a M1 would be faster and handle better than a e46 m3. |
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| Senior Member Name: Gregory Joined: Dec 2007 From: Vancouver Posts: 1,016
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M635's pictures | Well the M division can't make it an M. Because the name M1, has already been taken. M1 is a legendary car, you all know that, but they can't ruin is rep by make the 1 series a M1. And the M Roadsters and Coupes have already been taken, so there best decision is to go Tii. Its a perfect oppurtunity to bring that model back. The 1 series is small, seems pretty tight, hugs the road probably really good. A 2.0L Turbocharged is there best way to go for if they wanted to make a high performace car. Also, I think 3.5L in the 1 series is just insane! The car is the same size as a GTI, no bigger than a Corolla LOL. I just love these big motors get stuffed into little cars. Like the Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG >.< http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VB--S...eature=related This video shows the Tii at the Japan motor show 2007. They talk with the project manager. They also see the new M3 sedan (which I think they should just throw it out, because the new 3er Sedan rear, are by most the ugliest thing I have ever seen. The front is alright. But if you want the new M3, go for the coupe )Last edited by M635; 01-04-2008 at 07:43 PM.. |
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